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Avatar: The Legend of Korra The top 4 things that annoy me the most in Korra; which annoys you the most?
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4. They keep killing off the cool characters
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None of these actually
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3. Mako
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1. Where the heck is Azula!? The fact that they haven't even referenced her.
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2. The offensive lack of Sato
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Mako will never stop being annoying. Beyond saving now that he killed Ming Ming, my glasses of bias are now glued to my freaking face. Why can't the cool characters live!?
@Winter Right, why can't Sato be on the show more. However if you're referencing to us complaining about the lack of Asami; I know not every episode can be Asami, but so far this season she had maybe one scene. You don't have to worry about Asami Asami Asami because she's hardly even been here at all! What bothers me is Mako Mako Mako, he's been here every episode. I personally do appreciate the small things like I love seeing Kuvira and the air babies but Asami is one of the 4 core characters...why is it that the other 3 are focused on and she's off to the side? I mean at least we saw Sokka once and the fact that Zuko has a grandson implies that Mai is around. Wasn't there a reference to Suki with the Kyoshi stuff? But Ty-Lee and Azula get nothing! But I totally wish that they would stop killing off perfectly good characters; like I loved Ming Ming, P'Li, and Noatak. I wish they didn't completely forget the equalists and such. I fear so completely for poor Kuvira's life.
But yeah....why is there no mention of Azula!? They've referenced everyone but her, Suki, Mai, and Ty Lee. It's like they forgot that these characters were pivotal during the last season. Like if we're going to get into/screen time about Toph, Katara, Sokka, Zuko, and Aang, then let's hear more about the rest of the gang/their villains.
I am beyond pissed with Asami not getting as much screen time as Mako and Bo. I get that Asami is a non bender and her job doesn't necessarily call for her to have her own centric episode (despite everyone else having one), but come on. She is barely even shown, let alone given a line. They use her as a prop to showcase Wu being a jerky woman-crazy prince, they used her as a chauffeur to drive the avatar and her crew everywhere, and they use her as a handmaiden who serves Korra (and Korra never helps Asami out of a bind.... she's never there for Asami and the friendship is extremely one-sided). I just hate what they are doing to her character. Asami is a wonderful character.... and she is shit on by the characters in the show and the writers.
Mako is bugging me. He still has to be that character that is always right, he has to put down his brother's efforts, and then has the nerve to criticize Bo and who he follows. Like Mako....stfu.... you have been a glorified babysitter for three years and you haven't done shit to help. At least Bo, with Kuvira, is helping. And I hate how Mako is always putting down Wu. Wu is a spoiled prince....he doesn't know any better. This is how he was taught. And I hate that Mako has to put down all of Wu's "girly" actions.... Mako just needs to go away.
And yeah.... they need to stop killing villains. I hope Kuvira doesn't die.
As far as his criticisms of Bolin and Kuvira go, I'd probably be saying something similar. Remember, he's not the only one with misgivings about Kuvira's mission - a lot of other characters (Opal, Su and more) are very skeptical about the whole thing and it's easy to see why, given how Kuvira handled her announcement of a new Earth Empire.
And he doesn't keep putting Wu down. He snapped once and apologized for being out of line. And in any case, sure, Wu doesn't know any better, it's how he was raised - but surely, if he's going to change, someone needs to stop pandering to him and say things as they are? Not that it was necessarily Mako's place to do that - but again, he realized that and apologized. And I don't remember Mako making any reference to disliking what he does because it's 'girly' - I'm pretty sure it's down to the fact that he's escorting this guy to a bunch of trivial appointments that are entirely superfluous, and he is impatient and wants to do more.
Sorry, the rest of it (for the most part) I guess is a taste thing. I just think you're being overly harsh on the guy. But then, I do actually find that I'm liking him well enough post season one.
Yeah that's a tad annoying in my opinion. But then again she's afraid so I can understand. But she still should listen to Toph and try to get back to it.
But yeah....why is there no mention of Azula!? They've referenced everyone but her, Suki, Mai, and Ty Lee. It's like they forgot that these characters were pivotal during the last season. Like if we're going to get into/screen time about Toph, Katara, Sokka, Zuko, and Aang, then let's hear more about the rest of the gang/their villains.
Yes! I mean I get that Korra is a 'new show' and that the focus is no longer on the old characters (or so they said) but they've mentioned everyone else so they should mention Azula, and Ty-Lee. I mean Azula was and important character. I don't see how they could neglect her.
I am beyond pissed with Asami not getting as much screen time as Mako and Bo. I get that Asami is a non bender and her job doesn't necessarily call for her to have her own centric episode (despite everyone else having one), but come on. She is barely even shown, let alone given a line. They use her as a prop to showcase Wu being a jerky woman-crazy prince, they used her as a chauffeur to drive the avatar and her crew everywhere, and they use her as a handmaiden who serves Korra (and Korra never helps Asami out of a bind.... she's never there for Asami and the friendship is extremely one-sided). I just hate what they are doing to her character. Asami is a wonderful character.... and she is shit on by the characters in the show and the writers.
That seems to happen to all of my favorite characters--they get shit on by the other characters and writers. I used to think it was just something that happened because I liked villains. I just don't get why they would waste such a cool character. Sure she's a non-bender but she can still fight...like Sokka.
Mako is bugging me. He still has to be that character that is always right, he has to put down his brother's efforts, and then has the nerve to criticize Bo and who he follows. Like Mako....stfu.... you have been a glorified babysitter for three years and you haven't done shit to help. At least Bo, with Kuvira, is helping. And I hate how Mako is always putting down Wu. Wu is a spoiled prince....he doesn't know any better. This is how he was taught. And I hate that Mako has to put down all of Wu's "girly" actions.... Mako just needs to go away.
I just can't even with Mako. If I start talking about him I can go on and on. So I'm not even going to start.
And yeah.... they need to stop killing villains. I hope Kuvira doesn't die.
Exactly. I mean they can put her in prison if they must...just stop killing off the cool characters.
@minervadawn They really could have, and it would have been so neat. And a 'The Beach' episode for them could have been just as effective. But yeah I also really enjoyed the Equalist plot too, sad that they dropped it. I do too, I like Kuvira and she honestly doesn't seem like that bad of a person, like she could easily be helped rather than killed.
My only gripe with Mako is that he is so blatantly rude to his brother. I understand his feelings about Kuvira. I don't find that to be a major problem. I just resent him putting down Bo and Bo's work that he's been doing. Bo, although under the rule of Kuvira, has helped a mass amount of people and is proud of his accomplishments. Rather than being a good brother, Mako lashes out at Bo because he, himself, isn't doing anything, but watching Wu. And that's what gets me. We don't have any brotherly support and it frustrates me so much. It's like Bryke is determined to make all sibling relationships filled with tension and resentment. Why? Why can we not have a pair of siblings that occasionally fight but are supportive and concerned for the other's well being? I just never get that vibe from Mako and Bo.
Yes, Mako snapped at Wu once. However, Mako still puts down Wu behind his back. That isn't cool. Mako deliberately makes some snide comment about Wu to anyone he can talk to about it. We get it.... he doesn't like his job, but grow the hell up and do your job. This is just my critique.... Mako is bugging the hell out of me. Wu is annoying too, but I just don't care for Mako's treatment towards Wu.
Second, he's not the only one annoyed at Bo. Opal had a very similar argument with him in the first episode, and she's his girlfriend of about three years now. The implication, therefore, isn't that Mako is just lashing out because he's bitter and unhappy with his position but because what Kuvira is doing is SHADY AS HELL. Kind of like a lot of other characters. Mako and Bolin don't fight all that often, and this isn't just a case of 'ooh, siblings, we must have tension for drama's sake between them'. Like I've said, we're building up to a Civil War, and those are done best if we have characters we like on both sides. By the by, you keep blaming Bryke for these problems - but, from what I understand they have limited say in the writings of the individual episodes. Just throwing that out there.
And Mako has grown up and IS doing his job. He hates it, but he still does it. The comments he makes about Wu outside of that don't reflect how well he performs his duty, just his feelings about that duty and the person he's working for. Pretty much every character puts down Wu even after limited interaction. Mako has to spend the bulk of his time with the annoying little crap. So yeah, I'd probably do the same is my own feeling, and I wouldn't blame anybody else for doing so.
Opal is irritated that Bo is working with Kuvira. She doesn't like Kuvira.... because of what happened 3 years ago. And yeah.... Kuvira is shady as hell, but her actions still are doing more for the earth empire's state than anyone else is doing.
Mako and Bolin don't fight, but Mako is ALWAYS putting down Bo. In season 1, Mako put down Bo repeatedly with pro bending and even Bo's love life (when Bo wanted to go out with Korra). Mako crushed any sort of confidence Bo had. Then in season 2, Mako could have gave a rat's ass about Bo and his "mover" work. Bo just wants to be the hero and he wants to be useful/do something good. But any time he tries, Mako immediately is one of the first people to put it down and tell Bo to stop or just keep it to himself. Even in season 3, any time Bo had an idea (even if it was dumb), Mako immediately shuts it down and cuts Bo down for it. And now in season 4, we've got Mako deliberately putting down Bo's efforts and hard work because Bo happens to be on the other side. It's getting old. Whether Bryke is writing it or not, we've seen it to death. But hey, let's keep beating the dead horse.... recycled plots are always great. -___- I blame Bryke because they are putting their name on it and calling it their precious baby.
Yeah Mako does his job, but bitches about it every second he can. Enough is enough. Do your job, and keep your mouth shut. No one asked for his opinion, but he continuously has to knock Wu down (just like Bo), because I guess it makes him feel better. -__-
Mako and Bolin are brothers. I agree that Mako wasn't supportive of his brother for seasons one and two but the conflict is always different. In book one, Mako was just a bit of a selfish jerk who felt so overly responsible for his and his brother's well-being that he acted as something of a control freak, the dynamic between the two indicating that Bolin was used to having Mako sort things out while he could have his more chilled out and friendly attitude, which meant Mako wouldn't take Bolin seriously. In book two, it's something similar except Bolin is taking part in a propaganda piece while Mako is expected to be neutral in the conflict; while Mako doesn't take it seriously we DO see Bolin get sick of Mako's condescending attitude and it comes back to bite him. Book three shows the two on much more even footing (frankly I cant really remember any specific examples of Mako putting down Bolin) and we even see Mako encourage Bolin and shows faith in him. Now in Book 4 we have another argument (only shown AFTER they are reunited and are clearly pleased to see one another) - except this one isn't Mako trying to disregard Bolin for his attitude or to condescend, because the conflict lies in which side they've chosen and the ideals behind them. Bo doesn't 'happen' to be on the other side, he chose the other side and chooses to defend it, and Mako calls him out on the fact that it's a shady movement that smacks of tyranny (and Bo responds in kind by calling out issues with Wu and such). It's not a recycled plot, because Mako and Bolin may have argued but they've never truly been on opposing sides. Now they are.
And actually, in terms of his constant bitching to people - Asami DID ask his opinion (and was herself just as rude towards Wu as Mako is, just saying), Mako simply said to Lin (his boss) that he was looking forward to returning to detective work. Bolin also asks his opinion on Wu, and Mako doesn't go on a long rant of bitching about the guy, he just acknowledges his frustration. There's no indication he's doing it out of spite or to make him feel better. Lots of people hate their jobs, and will acknowledge their frustration to others so that they don't have to keep it bottled up inside. It's a normal thing that normal people do. Not something to get worked up over.
Brothers fighting and being jealous of one another IS a recycled plot. Even if they are different issues, it's been done before. Bo and Mako fought in season 1, and jealousy was there when Bo asked Korra on a date. Mako was jealous of Bo. Then, when Korra kissed Mako.... Bo was heartbroken, but also jealous of Mako. Now, we're just getting the jealous brother plot from Mako envying Bo's importance in restoring the earth kingdom. Mako is jealous..... it's evident. And now Mako, being the dick that he is, has to make a big deal out of it. And of course, because Bryke has written it so, we need it shoved down our throats that Kuvira is bad and all the good things that she has done are apparently wrong.
Is there a reason why we need to defend Mako's actions here? Mako is deliberately talking bad about Wu to Asami (even if she did ask for his opinion/she was being harassed by Wu so her feelings are understood), Lin, Tenzin, Raiko, and Bo. In his position, he honestly shouldn't be saying anything. If this were real, Mako would have lost his job by now....but of course, in the avatar-verse, precious Mako is Bryke's favorite..... so everything must revolve around Mako.
This is just my opinion. Mako is bugging me in this new season immensely. Is there a reason why you feel the need to attack my opinion on this?
By the by... Every criticism Mako does level at Bolin is down to Kuvira and the stuff she's up to. Jealousy really doesn't factor in here, given that Mako is given the opportunity to go with them and he refuses on the grounds that what they're doing is actually a bad idea. So yeah... Not really a recycled plot point. There are possibly similarities between the conflicts but the fact that they are arguing over something much more important than the petty disagreements in the previous seasons is probably done to show that these characters have actually grown and matured, have chosen sides based on some form of moral code - and each has chosen the side opposite the other.
The idea of Mako actually being bitter and jealous of his brother, refusing to admit it and this resulting in their fight isn't how I viewed the scene because nobody made mention of the jealousy and I read their reunion as Mako actually being proud of Bolin for being 'important'. Along with the fact that the conflict only emerges after Kuvira makes her move, I think the conflict they're setting up is just that Mako disagrees on a moral level with what Kuvira is doing, and Bolin thinks it's a good thing. And I find it hard to imagine that they'll follow up on a jealousy dynamic between the two since the clash of morality is very much thematically linked to the whole civil war they've been setting up in a way jealousy isn't. That's not to say that jealousy couldn't be a factor, I just think it's unlikely to be the primary cause of the argument. Personal prediction and reading of the whole thing.
I feel like no one in the show ever calls Mako out for anything, just because he is the writers' favorite. I just personally feel like jealousy is the main reason for Mako to be pissed, but also does feel like Kuvira's movement is wrong. But then again, I kind of feel like the whole idea of Kuvira taking over instead of Wu wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Why is Raiko, Tenzin, and Su all hellbent on the earth kingdom returning to a state of monarchy in which Wu is just playing a figurehead. Why don't they want the earth kingdom to be united? I feel like Mako has just been told so many times that Kuvira is bad, that he honestly just believes it. And of course, Kuvira's forceful announcement didn't help reinforce this negative image of her.
And the thing is, for the most part people don't have a problem with Kuvira until her announcement (as far as I could tell, anyway). In fact, it seems like she was granted all her resources by official powers (with Su being one of the few to truly object) so that she could reunite the Earth Kingdom - and in many respects, she is right when she says the political leaders aren't interested in the common folk being caught up in their own little games. The problem lies in the way Kuvira handles any form of resistance, her overly brutal methods and so on. Her actions towards the town in the first episode were fairly morally ambiguous at best, and her announcement about a society ruled by innovation and technology reminded me of Sozin's dream in Avatar, which led to a hundred year war. Plus, her announcement that she would now be ruling this new Empire in place of a monarchy is in a strange way slightly hypocritical - as Su says, she's becoming another tyrant, but it's more than that. Kuvira hates the monarchy because she says it's an archaic form of ruling - but then her method of taking power is essentially despotism, the most archaic, basic and frankly barbaric method of choosing a ruler. I mean, sure, she has a huge load of followers - probably more than Wu, really - but without an official way of voting her into power or the agreement of other official authorities it's still essentially a might-makes-right scenario. The thing that chilled me most, though, was the line about her dissenters being thrown into prison camps.
It's not so much a problem with Kuvira's motives, I think - it's her methods that are too extreme and uncompromising for it to end well.
P.S. The lack of Sato comes 2nd and it's truly offensive but what makes it for me is that although scarce her screentime is always top notch and that's the redeeming quality for me.
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