ive seen of some of your other forums on this spot...
yours doing it for the attention...
look no-body cares...you may have your opinion which appears to be anti-twilight but please take it somewhere else ...
let us have our fun in something we enjoy...
and if you watch any of her interviews i think you would be proved wrong.. Stephanie seems to be a lovely lady.. just leave her alone..

I came here to get an understanding of Twilight's fan base and voice my opinions and that's what I'm going to do.
And for the record I'm looking for attention I just have a lot on my mind and I want to get them written down as soon as possible.
And as for the interviews with her I've seen them and I would have to disagree with you there because I can tell just by looking at her and listening to her speak on what her true intentions are.
But your point is well made yes I'm aware no one cares but this sight seems to have the most intelligent twilight fan base I've ever seen because you are able to make valid points and most of you don't rip me to pieces when I make voice my opinion.
Because if I go any where else or if I say this else where I either get:
Twilight hater:"Twilight sucks dude"
me:"why do you say that?"
Twilight hater:"because sparkling vampires are gay"
or I get
Twilight lover:"OMG How dare you say that your prolly just jealous of Edward"
Me: "No I'm no jealous at all"
Twilight lover:"Your jealous now STFU!"
So I'm post it here because I don't get these types of responses here.
That and I have a small love for debating.
Put you get my point and I mean no disrespect to Stephanie but thats just my opinion.

I dont think she wrote Twilight for money...how did she know that a simple little dream would become the world wild phenomenon that is known as Twilight? To me she comes across as a very down to earth person who really likes music and loves her family. But I'm sure that after doing a hundred interviews and answering the same questions for the millionth time...might start to get to a person and maybe her tone has changed alittle since the begining. Do you have the same opinion of JK Rowling? Even though I like the series...after watching interviews with her...I just really didnt like her. I know she's had some rough times but to me it felt as though she really didnt even like her own books.

Well at first I did think that maybe Stephanie didn't write it for the money but after I actually read it I realized that she was just telling people what they wanted to hear so that they would buy into all this. To me she was aware the whole time that tweens and teens would buy into it. As for JK Rowling again it was the same thing but not until later on did she become a huge money wanting attention seeker. To me the whole "Dumbldore is gay" thing just seemed to be a publicity stunt for attention to me.
Though this is my opinion and your welcome to argue.

I have no clue about the Harry Potter thing, never really cared enough to see the interviews.
But as for Meyers, I'd have to agree with McMadness. She does seem to write whatever she'd think the fans want to hear, say like, Bella getting pregnant. I mean, I love Nessie, but come on. So typical. She had to know that everyone wanted Edward and Bella live happily ever after, with a baby and all.

And as for not caring about her fans, again. I've kinda got to agree with you. Like the Midnight Sun thing. Yes, we all know how terribly hurt she must have felt. But it's been so long. And I've seen sites where the fans are practially begging her to finish the story. But she doesn't, she simply doesn't care.
But if she were money hungry, wouldn't you think that she'd have published Midnight Sun already? I mean, that would probably be even bigger than Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse, or Breaking Dawn. Just for the sake that everyone wants to know what Edward was thinking, hearing, and feeling in Twilight.

Eh. My two cents.

Well, it's not like you can publish a book, and NOT think it's gonna get you money. That's y writers ARE writers.

Most of the fansite that I've been on...most of the fans are saying they didnt like the whole Bella pregnant thing and why did Stephenie Meyer go in that direction? So that is kinda proving that she just isnt writing what the fans want. Finishing Midnight would give the fans what they want...but according to her website...its not that she "wont" finish it...she's saying that she's kinda lost her way and "cant" finish and that its not coming out the way she wanted it too...so again..she's not giving the fans what they want nor is she just writing any ole' thing and then throwing it to the publishers. And everyone forgets...she doesnt have the last say in what gets published...if the publishers dont like it..they're not going to publish it...they are in it for the money and wont waste it on something they dont think will sell.

Sorry, I've never heard anyone say they didn't want Bella pregnant. I just guessed. That's usually what the fans wants.
And the Midnight Sun thing. Well, I was trying to make a point, but it came out all messed up.
She seems to put whatever the fans wanted in the books. But apperantly she did not. And by me saying how she didn't finish it, I was trying to say that she doesn't seem to care that the fans really really want it. And just like anyother writer, they never just write any old thing. Everything is always different in different books, and different writers. And she could finish it, but perfers to wait for another dream. Which is kinda weird, if I can say so myself.
Like, I'm all about Vampire Academy now. I've seen interviews of Mead saying she makes charts about the books. She writes down what she wants in them, when something happens, and all the detailings. And in the end makes wonderful books.
I don't see how Meyers can't do something of that sort. She already knows exactly what happens in the books, and all that. So chyeah. I don't see how hard it could be to actually try to write the book, instead of writing down what you see in a dream you had. Though, I am not a writer. I'm just saying my opinion.

here's the way I think. It's probably not to far of a stretch to think that Stephanie Meyers started expressing herself along lines that the fans would like. Not because she simply didn't care, but more as an artist who wanted to be entertaining to her audience. Yes she may have been giving many of them what she hoped they wanted but not as some path of least resistance/greatest financial gain. I too am a writer and from what I read it seems like the author tells stories in a very linear fasion. For instance I got the impresion that up till a certain point Alice was lying to her about being turned into a vampire while knowing full well that she would stay human in the end. Later when Bella and Edward were having their Honeymoon that choice got taken away from her (fate or her being a danger magnet). All the stories of the other Cullens each not wanting it for her, each wanting nothing more than to be human.
It is real easy to lose control of a story when the characters take on enough of a life of their own. Making them do things you as an author know they would not isn't just a contradiction it becomes harder and harder to maintain enough logic or to put it another way you get giant holes in the plot.
If you want something to complain about....ask yourself how/why no one ever called the Volturi when everything could have been avoided by simply telling them to wait. Think about it, Alice calls Italy tells them to pass a message on to edward, BELLA'S NOT DEAD! END OF BOOK.
Anyhow my thought is that she had these characters who everyone loves (or hates to love) wanted to continue their story and much like her reaction to Mignight sun (whichh I hear she is back to writing by the way) she keeps finding herself not neccessarily liking where the story leads. Unfortunately this time, with the leak of the manuscript her feelings are probably magnified.
think about it If you had created characters you fell in love with wouldn't it be hard for you to let things happen that you couldn' take back?

;LOOK GUYS SHE DREMT ABOUT IT AND BUILT ON IT.I WENT TO HER BOOK SIGNING AND SHE IS LOVELY.AND IF YOU MET HER YOUD RELISE THAT SHE IS NOT DOING IT FOR THE CASH AND HER WRITING IS MOST DESCRIPTIVE.

Speaking of the whole "It came to her in a dream" thing I don't really believe that at all.
Of course there is no way to disprove or prove it came to her in a dream so we just have to take it as it is.
And I feel she is too descriptive in her writing.
Especially when it comes to describing people.
And when it comes to public appearances she could always be putting on an act.

being creative a hard life. ones creations are a delicate thing. stare at them to long or with too much of a critical eye and you lose one of the best parts intended. Immersion, the ability to lose yourself in the world of the story. Yes you can look right past what is given; or you could relax accept the gift as given and simply enjoy.


Personally I heard a sense of honesty in the things she wrote. That has to be more powerfull than being able to write like Emmerson or Keating.
Heck I've said it before and will again....I am so glad (indescribably so) that they get to live happily ever after!

I have no problem with happy endings and it doesn't have to be realistic to enjoy it but for some reason no matter how hard I try I just can't get into Twilight.
And I'm really good at suspension of disbelief.

I mainly liked the series because she kept it for the most part clean. The language...her descriptions... it was nice to read something that didnt have "f&%*" as every other word. Or that the books were turned into mild porno books. If she was really really after money...she would have included as many "f" words and as many sex scenes as she could.

Nicely done Ms Meyer...nicely done.

She most definitely did not write Twilight for the money, she had a really great and creative idea and she put it out there so everyone can enjoy it. And I appreciate that she did that.

No her idea was not creative.
It's been done a million times over.
There is nothing original about Twilight except for the sparkly vampires.

I for one have no problem with her continuing to create more twilight stories for money or not. Everyone needs to take care of themselves financially. Honestly I hope to be lucky enough to one day be able to share something I love with as many people as she has been able to and get paid to do it.

if she puts more out I'll pay for that too.

Might I add there are sparkly girl vampires too.

Constructive criticism is one thing ignorant hate is another.
Choose wisely

My hate isn't ignorant I have read the books and watched the movies.
Ignorant hate is when I just say" Twilight is gay" and I don't make any valid points why.

There is a difference between being creative and being original. If you want to be really honest...nothing is an original idea anymore. Everything is some form of a copy, one way or another. And making 'sparkly vampires' and 'protector' wolves who fall in love with the same clumsy human and having a vampire who is a caring and skilled doctor is very creative to me. Avatar is not an original idea that story has been done a hundred times..but it is the most creative movie out there right now.

No avatar is not the most creative thing out there.
All avatar really has going for it is the special effects but thats not enough to call a movie amazing.
And protector wolves and vampires have been done before as well.
There is NOTHING original about Twilight in the slightest.
Come to think of it the only reason why this bugs me with Twilight is because some of the annoying fan base and the claim of this being the greatest book ever written which it clearly isn't.
I would gladly have been fine with this novel if it weren't for its ridiculous hype.

Ok...you need to reread my last post...I said Avatar is the most creative movie out there "now" and hello? You have to be creative to come of with those special effects. And I didnt say that protector wolves and sparkly vampires havent been done before (well the sparkly vampires havent) but them falling in love with the same clumsy girl is orginal and creative.

creative [kriːˈeɪtɪv]
adj
1. having the ability to create
2. characterized by originality of thought; having or showing imagination
3. designed to or tending to stimulate the imagination
4. characterized by sophisticated bending of the rules or conventions.

Those definations all apply to the Twilight series and to every other book on the face of the planet.

1. What she created wasn't very interesting.
2. Which she failed at.
3. It didn't really.
4. No it still had all the rules and conventions of an average romance novel.
And both the a vampire and werewolf loving the same person isn't new it also has been done before.
Oh and I forgot to right "at this time" when it came to avatar.
Besides creativity isn't special effects it is new ideas.
And what does one new idea get you when that one new idea is really stupid?

LOOK EVERY PERSON HAS DIFFRENT OPPINOION ON THINGS SO THINK WAT U THINK AND WILL THINK WAT WE WANT TOTHINK

I am.
You don't see me going to other peoples places and posting random hate messages do you?
Well for the most part.

I was giving you the definition of 'creative' and whether you would like to admit it or not...Twilight meets those definitions. And please tell me the name of a movie that has both a vampire and a shapeshifter falling in love with the same clumsy girl? I would love to watch it. And how can you possible say that 'Besides creativity isn't special effects it is new ideas."? You have to be especially CREATIVE to come up with any kind of special effects! You can not up with new ideas or special effects without being creative...you cant have one without the other. Thats just a law of nature.

I highly doubt she did. She wasn't an experienced writer. She went to school for Literature, but I don't think she ever planned on writing a book. She has said so herself. However...

I do agree with you on one thing. She's changed alot since she first started out. She's grown to be pretty self-exaultant. I mean, it's not like I have a huge amount of respect for her. I'm glad she wrote the books and I'm glad these books sort of jump started her career, but I don't think she's the best author of all time. From what I've seen about her, I don't particular care for her. I know that's bad to say, but I'm not a fan of her like some twilight fans are. They treat her as queen.

I kind of agree that she doesn't care about the fans anymore. I'm going to try and explain so it so it doesn't sound mean.

I think it all started from Midnight Sun, and from there, it all went downhill. In August/September of 08, Midnight Sun was leaked. Pandamonium broke out. When she released a final statement that the completion/publication of Midnight Sun would be postponed indefinitely, I'm sure she lost alot of her fans. It's not like I was a huge supporter of her career. I just happened to like the books. But, she when she said that, I didn't hate her. I was extremely disappointed that she would do that to her fans. They had been faithful since the beginning and to do that to them... Things get leaked all the time on the internet: movies, books, scripts. Yet, they are always released. Her response to the leak was unprofessional sorry to say.

And, Mcmadness, you are verging on twilight hating. I know we've crossed paths in the past, and I had respected your civil attitude towards twilight. But you are somewhat attacking the fans here by belittling their opinions. It comes of that way anyways. You say you want to understand Twilight and the phenomenon around it, but the title, "say what you want but Stephanie Meyer created Twilight only to make money", that is an already resolved thought. With that wording, it's notioning that there's no room for discussion. Even if people do put in their insight, you are implying that you aren't liable for a change of opinion according to your wording. In other words, you are purposefully provoking the fans of this Twilight Spot. If that's your true intentions, I don't know. I consider myself a pretty civil twilight fan, more civil than some. But I have to be honest, some of your comments irked me the wrong way.

My opinion in terms of all the comments, i agree with some of them. Twilight is original and creative in the fact that Stephenie Meyer created a new version of vampires. Is it taking away from the stereotypical vampires, no, but she tried a new mythology. And, from the looks of it, some people seem to like it. She made the characters very personable. Not saying you can't relate to other vampire characters such as "Angel". The vampires who live on animals, they all have humanistic qualities, but I think the Cullens, they are more relatable, and I don't think I can explain it right. 'Angel', there's still many things that we don't know about him. We know he was Irish, we know that he was turned and then was cursed with a soul and that's how he changed his ways by feeding on animals. But, his life before, it's not revealed unless you do some major research. However, the Cullens, their backstory is laid out on the table. Everything and you can feel the pain from them. I think alot of people can relate to that. Realize, people take things from these books. Whether it's Bella's determined attitude or her immaturity, people take things from these books and they treasure that. By saying stuff like "it's not creative and it's been done before", it may discourage people from liking some qualities.

And the whole Avatar subject, I don't think it's not the most creative thing out there. Yes, the movie was great and it now holds the title of the most grossing movie of all time, but the storyline is actually very common. I've seen the whole 'peace on earth' symbolism and plotline in many movies before. That all of us are equal. The man falling in love with someone different than his kind. However, James Cameron had a way of making it creative. The cinematical feel, the Pandorians. It shows the orginal plotline in a new light, that all of us, human or any mythical creature can live together. Everyone is the same and we shouldn't belittle or discriminate them for their color or race.

And I seriously apologize for this being so long, but please read it. I have some point in here that I would like opinions on. lol

Who cares if it came to her in a dream or not. It was her idea so yea it is original. And whose to say shes only in it for the money? whose to say J. K. Rowling is not only in it for the money? or Stephen King? or any other author out there? but does anyone attack them? No. Just because she made money doing something and became successful does not mean shes in it just for the money.

mandapanda...you are wise beyond your years...but how many times am I going to have to tell you that? lol But again..everyone is missing my point about Avator...I'm just saying that "right now" in terms of creativity (ie special effects) there really isnt anything out there that is competing with it...(I thought maybe Wolfman might have a shot..but I was disappointed...) The actual story has been done a hundred times...'Dances with wolves' for example... I guess all my points in this forum was to show that even though something may or may not be 'original' it most certainly can be creative...either by the charaters or the special effects or the custome design...or writing style which I know alot of people dont believe Meyer has any..(and I'm not one of them.) I still believe that Meyer cares about her fans...but maybe she's not made for the spotlight and she comes across as though she doesnt care.

"even though something may or may not be 'original' it most certainly can be creative"

from that sentence alone, I now understand what you have been trying to say.

And, I'm glad you liked my comment. And I do agree with Avatar and how it is creative with special effects. It is creative, even though it is in the now, it certainly has surpassed any graphic image expectations. Although the story isn't original, the graphics are creative and reached a completely different level of special effects. :)

Stephenie Meyer had a dream to begin the series. She started writing it for no one but herself and then her sister loved it and incuredged her to get it published.
And I don't mind you being here, as long as you're respectful. =)

i believe she is a lovely lady,,, in the writing of twilight she wasnt even think of publishing it,,, so how could she bee thinking of money...
but you could be right in the her contract of four books.. dont you think that if you weren't getting paid and weren't in a contract that you would still write breaking dawn under such a large demanding fanbase. IF SHE DID !!?!?! why is that so wRONG?? the way you are repling you speak as though its a bad thing?? she is married and has THREE BOYS like.,,, a family that size would need a handfull of money coinsidering she had to pay for her education and her kids education while she was a stay home mum... like..
and i dont think it makes any difference if perhaps she did write for the money, BECAUSE I WOULD STILL LIKE TWILIGHT JUST THE SAME!!
thats like if you really like eggs... i buy free-range, but if they only offered you caged eggs,, would you really give eggs up for life all because its a inhumane way to collect them,, i wouldnt believe so.. (I KNOW THATS A BAD EXPLAINTION)
but look. she is a lovely woman,, we will never know if she did or diddnt... but who REALLY CARES?
if you dont like twilight then why are you one the one carrying on that she is only making it for the money.?
and i personally beleive that you dont have the rigt to ecuse stephenie of writing for any causes.
that is stephenie's buisness..... and i dont think anyone on this spot appricatse it..... jsut because you say its for money doesnt prove it so...

Hmm lots of reading to be done here.
But I will admit this: When it comes to her making money I have no problem with that. However for some reason I just can't get this feeling out of my head that she only wrote it because she new this is what teens liked and that they have these same sexual problems which twilight allows them to see in a better light so to speak.
So she knew she would make money off of it so it comes off as exploitation to me.
I will admit this may be me over thinking it but because of my life experiences I have a hard time believing anyone does anything for more then just profit.
My intentions aren't meant to be hateful but when it comes to people doing things just for money its very hard to make me budge. (Though it isn't impossible) And the reason why the topic title is so hate sounding is because I watched a bunch of interviews and I just got angry at her for what she said in the interview and I got this feeling of deceit coming from her.
Though the topic title is harsh if I was in a better mood it would have come off as something more controlled.

I'm not saying that she didnt expect 'not' to get paid at all for Twilight...if that was true she wouldnt have got to a publishing house..she was would have just posted her story online or something. I'm just saying that she probably didnt expect to get rich off of the series. The sucess of Twilight was probably something no one expected.

McMadness, I understand what you are saying. I too am not a huge fan of Stephenie Meyer. Everytime she has an interview, I watch with chagrin because I know she'll say something I don't agree with, or she'll say something that exalts her above others and I can't deal with self-righteous people. She's not too bad, but her past interviews ever since 2008, i had found difficult to watch.

Although I still disagree with your theory. Stephenie Meyer was a mother of 3 when this happened. I don't think she anticipated this type of attention from her books. She wasn't even going to publish the book until her sister urged her to turn it into a publishing company. So you see, I honestly don't think she was in it for money. Looking at the evidence, I just don't see how it is possible.

I know she has 3 kids but due to my mistrustful nature I don't really believe it.
Unless I get the right feeling.
I got this way from personal experience so its very hard for me to trust what ANYONE says really.

Still I do feel that Stephanie claiming that the idea of Twilight coming to her in dream does feel like a publicity stunt to me.

allwell.... does it really matter??
we are still going to love twilight anyway?? it aint a insult.. is it something really worth debating about?

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

Something's on my mind
It's been for quite some time
This time I'm on to you
So where's the other face ?
The face I heard before
Your head trip's boring me

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

Stuck down in a rut of dis logic and smut
A side of you well hid
When it's all said and done
it's real and it's been fun
But was it all REAL fun

Let's nuke the bridge we torched
2,000 times before
This time we'll blast them all to hell
I've had this burning in my guts now
for so long
My belly's aching now to say

You're just...well f**k.
I can't explain it 'cause I think you suck.
I'm taking pride,
By telling you to F**k Off and Die.

uh...nice use of the smileys?

whats with the same comment repeated?????

I have to say, I agree with mandapanda 100%. McMadness, I think the fact that you want to understand the hype of Twilight is fine if you are honestly asking. This may just be me, but you come across as a bit holier-than-thou with the way you address fans. And the fact that you have several threads about how much you hate Twilight/Meyer...that's a bit much. It sounds to me like you're just trying to make fans feel bad for liking Twilight.

I completely agree about the title of this topic and how standoffish it is. It's like you're saying "I am going to hate her no matter what you say, but say it anyway."

Of course Twilight isn't original. Everyone knows that. Almost no stories are. Twilight follows the basic Romeo and Juliet theme, as do countless other stories. The few basic plots originate from fairy tales, the Bible, and Shakespeare. Think about it, Twilight is Romeo and Juliet, as is Avatar. Harry Potter is Cinderella. The Chronicles of Narnia are biblical stories. Even The Lord of the rings has been compared to the Bible.

I agree with hellohoudini. Just because Twilight isn't original does not mean it isn't creative. You said you thought Meyer's plot was just what she wanted fans to hear, but you admit that she had a plot. Sure, it was a cliche damsel-in-distress plot in the beginning, but it ended up as something that I don't see very often; whether fans personally liked that plot is another matter.

But Mcmadnesssmells, not cool. :( Not cool at all.

Yeah I know I am over doing it a bit.
I don't want you to feel bad about Twilight that isn't my intention at all.
And as I said I will admit the topic title is over the top mostly due to the fact that I was in a bad mood at the time.
And yes I know its wrong for me to take my bad mood out on you guys.
As for Mcmadnesssmells.
Posting a the lyrics to a crappy song and making a user-name that's supposed to be insulting to me just make me think your a retard and ignore you which is something I'm gonna do after I post this.
As for everyone else again my intention was not meant the way its coming off.

I didn't even notice the username from the repetative comments above. I will say this, I do not agree with what that user did. It was immature and juvenile. However, everyone deals with insults a certain way. If that user was insulted, this was her reaction. Maybe you struck a chord with her that was unpleasant and that is why she reacted like that. Her response was a little over the top.

You've admitted that you overdid the whole what-is-the-twilight-phenomenon thing. You said you didn't mean it with the intention of hurting the fans, so... hand shakes, hugs, fist bunps, that's all that should be going on here :) We're all friends now. I can see in your comments of this page that you meant no ill will. Now, it's time to move past this.

PS. Since not all the users read the comments of this forum, you may want to put in the forum content that you have no intention of insulting the fans or something like that. Otherwise, you may have to explain all of this all over again :)

Yeah I think that would be a very good idea.