Yeah here’s another one of those articles. So before I start this, I wanted to say that I’m sorry to CyberEchidna for upsetting him with the “Accidental Kiss rp Problem”. It was not my intention to upset him. However I still stand by what I said in the article, and if you cannot accept that I’m sorry. I’m saying this here, mainly because I wanted to resolve that, but also because this article may name/reference some people in the past that I have had issues with when doing cross-overs, and otherwise.
So before this gets started, to anyone I reference, I’m sorry if this offends you, and I don’t mean to make you feel bad, but these are problems I’d like to have fixed. It is not in any way me trying to reflect badly on you.
Anyway…
So I’ve done at least… TEN different cross-overs in one fan-fic or another, and sadly it hasn’t been a very good track-record so far. Usually what happens is that me or someone else will suggest a cross-over, we’ll agree, then the person will write the article, or I will.
Here’s a list of the problems that happen during this.
WHEN THEY WRITE IT
1. Usually when I have a character in a fan-fiction, they ask for some personality, and such, but mostly just the name and pic. From there they will just write what they want/or THINK my characters are like, then post it and tell me when it’s finished.
Problem: Just about every time I’ve seen this happen it ends up with them not using my characters in the right way at all. There have been times when Rin, who is extremely chipper and random, acts hot-headed and oblivious, and has said things like “Dear” or referencing people by their last name. And that’s just a nit-pick. The worse thing is that they’ll be DOING things that defy their character. Such as Rynk randomly flying away on a magic carpet (or something along those lines). Let me tell ya now, Rynk might be Persian, but she doesn’t fly off on random magic carpets. Another example was when Rin was asked a question of where a certain medicine might be found, and denying someone the information. I did not have imput in that decision.
2. This does not happen anymore (and I am so thankful for that), but there was a time when I was not even asked if I wanted my characters in the cross-over. I would find out maybe even weeks after the article was posted, and in short it was not very true to the character.
Problem: Let me answer this with an example, (and once again I am not trying to pick on the person who did this, but I am sorry that you might see this and be offended.) Once I sent a random E-mail to a friend asking “Hey what are you planning to happen in your next fan-fiction?”, and he answered with that he was planning to have my character be tricked into thinking that he had to kill my friend’s character after just meeting the people who “tricked” him. I ended up having to take quite a while to convince my friend NOT to do that, or do something related, and in the end completely I ended up writing the fan-fic cross-over myself, which to tell the truth I enjoyed, and got no complains about, but if I had not asked about it then, a cross-over where my character gets tricked into doing something bad would be online, and people would see it.
Now I’d like to point out once again that this problem does not happen with this person anymore, and we’ve been past this type of issue for a long time now. The point though is that this not happen with other people in the future.
WHEN I WRITE IT
1. Not enough info. When I write a cross-over personally (and I can only recall three off the top of my head that I’ve actually done successfully, including the one stated in the previous paragraph), the person I’m trying to get the information from is usually going “You can do whatever with it”, so that’s what I do. And well it doesn’t go well. NOW, there HAVE been times where I’ve been given the info and utterly destroyed the Fan-fic (*coughConflictsArcanecough*) terribly, so I’m not saying I’ve been that great at it myself, but it makes it really hard for me to make characters act like they normally would accurately without information.
CO-OP-WRITING
1. HARD. Literally the only bad thing about co-op-writing. When I try to do a co-op it almost always ends badly, with the thing not even getting written. (And I wish I was lying, but it really isn’t because I’M not trying. I know that that sounds prideful, but I seriously can’t remember the last time I didn’t do my part.) Whether it be because of being offline for too long, forgetting to check messages, lack of interest, lack of information to give, lack of ideas (good or bad) to use, etc. almost every time it does get written.
So how can this be fixed?
Well MY suggestions… (and note these are just MINE. Others may have better ideas. I don’t know.)
1. GET LOTS OF INFO. Doesn’t matter how much it is, or how long it’ll take, you want to make a cross-over the point is making it a GOOD one. Have the people fill out the following form.
Name:
Age:
Appearance (AND image):
Location:
Other Location Information:
Allies:
Close Friends:
Enemies:
Abilities:
Skills (do not confuse with abilities):
Interests/Hobbies:
Likes/Dislikes:
Lines the character would say (if any):
Accent:
Nationality:
Personality:
And probably more after that. THEN if you want more detail, then once you come to a part you aren’t sure how they’d react to, send them a message asking how they would want their character to act.
2. Roleplay write. This is basically where you make the plot out of a roleplay you do. You start off with the main introduction, then introduce the characters, then roleplay a while, go to the next scene, debate on what to edit and what to keep, then turn it into an article. You can do this by doing the normal roleplay format…
A: I like Dancing *hit by train*
B: *stops Train* Doctor Octoganopus! BLAA! *shoots train*
OR the writer’s style roleplay…
“I like Dancing” A said before struck by a train.
B stopped the train by yelling “Doctor Octoganopus! BLAA!” and blasting it with a laser from his mouth.
Personally I find the Writer’s Style roleplay to be a better choice as it helps you make the little hints like “Little did he know” that you’d not be able to in a normal roleplay (Mangre, you are missed.). Also I personally find it to be more fun, and quicker, as you don’t have to change the story from roleplay to article (and on that note, to those who use the roleplay format to make articles, I have to say I REALLY don’t like that format. Not that I’m calling you bad writers because of it, but it’s much harder to read for me at least.).
3. Base it on a roleplay you already did. Take a roleplay you had with some person, and write the article based on that, with whatever tweaks you’d have made here and there. And of course GET PERMISSION. This is the easiest approach, as you neither have to go back and forth with the person, or ask them for various info (for the most part at least), with the only downside being turning the roleplay into an article. But even then that CAN help with the “Little did he know” effect.
4. And as always, when you’ve finished the article, check with the person to see if it’s okay with them. My suggestion would be to do this after each chapter is finished for short stories, and each scene for long stories. That way if they want something changed near the beginning you do not have to change the whole plot because of it (or at least the writing part).
An example I’ll list is what I’d consider the best cross-over series I’ve ever been a part of so far, and it is of course MOBIUS ACADEMY.
The method used in this series involves me and Gracethefox typing up the story’s plot-summary, then (usually) me writing it, and sending it to her for approval, before posting it. Now lately however we have been doing it so Grace does the writing too (which she’s great at if I might add). And when he run into scenes where the paths of writing intertwine, we take the roleplay approach, and write in Writer’s Style roleplaying. We mark the scenes we’ll be using, and mark the parts where they are in the story, then put them together, check it, and finally post it. Thankfully we have not had to make edits to the story because of oversights yet, and I doubt we will with how well it is going. If you plan on making a cross-over series I suggest this approach. It has yet to fail me or Grace (or as far as I know).
Now there is one exception in a way to this, which is of course the “In Another World” series. Why? The IAW is based on three things that change all character’s personalities and lifestyles
1. They’re humans in this, and therefore do not have certain attributes like large ears or tails that can affect their personality.
2. They do not have powers, which can affect their personality.
3. They do not live the same way, or even with the same people with some.
The point of IAW is to make scenarios completely chalk-full of WHAT-IF’s, so it cancels out and/or changes…
Accent:
Nationality:
Name:
Age:
Appearance (AND image):
Location:
Other Location Information:
Allies:
Close Friends:
Enemies:
Abilities:
And maybe some other attributes. If you are planning to do a cross-over series like this, then most of these will not affect you (MOST, not all). That does not mean you don’t ask for permission. And if you do try this type, you should probably add stuff to the profile chart like
What would you like them to act like?
How old?
What skills?
What nationality?
What friends?
Etc.
I guess this is more of a suggestion article than a standards-article, but I do mean “standards” when it’s in the title. If anyone wants to write a story that has my characters I want to be told WHAT they will be doing, HOW they will be acting, WHEN they will appear, and be sent updates on it to make sure it’s okay.
So in the end of this, really quick, while you should want it done right, don’t try to push it too far. The people that make the articles DO try, and I doubt they’re trying to upset you. This doesn’t mean you should shrug off any mess-ups, but try to be nice about it, and if/when you have to make fixes, ask to do it yourself so they don’t have to do more work for you.
Thank you for your time
EAT PIE AND PROSPER
So before this gets started, to anyone I reference, I’m sorry if this offends you, and I don’t mean to make you feel bad, but these are problems I’d like to have fixed. It is not in any way me trying to reflect badly on you.
Anyway…
So I’ve done at least… TEN different cross-overs in one fan-fic or another, and sadly it hasn’t been a very good track-record so far. Usually what happens is that me or someone else will suggest a cross-over, we’ll agree, then the person will write the article, or I will.
Here’s a list of the problems that happen during this.
WHEN THEY WRITE IT
1. Usually when I have a character in a fan-fiction, they ask for some personality, and such, but mostly just the name and pic. From there they will just write what they want/or THINK my characters are like, then post it and tell me when it’s finished.
Problem: Just about every time I’ve seen this happen it ends up with them not using my characters in the right way at all. There have been times when Rin, who is extremely chipper and random, acts hot-headed and oblivious, and has said things like “Dear” or referencing people by their last name. And that’s just a nit-pick. The worse thing is that they’ll be DOING things that defy their character. Such as Rynk randomly flying away on a magic carpet (or something along those lines). Let me tell ya now, Rynk might be Persian, but she doesn’t fly off on random magic carpets. Another example was when Rin was asked a question of where a certain medicine might be found, and denying someone the information. I did not have imput in that decision.
2. This does not happen anymore (and I am so thankful for that), but there was a time when I was not even asked if I wanted my characters in the cross-over. I would find out maybe even weeks after the article was posted, and in short it was not very true to the character.
Problem: Let me answer this with an example, (and once again I am not trying to pick on the person who did this, but I am sorry that you might see this and be offended.) Once I sent a random E-mail to a friend asking “Hey what are you planning to happen in your next fan-fiction?”, and he answered with that he was planning to have my character be tricked into thinking that he had to kill my friend’s character after just meeting the people who “tricked” him. I ended up having to take quite a while to convince my friend NOT to do that, or do something related, and in the end completely I ended up writing the fan-fic cross-over myself, which to tell the truth I enjoyed, and got no complains about, but if I had not asked about it then, a cross-over where my character gets tricked into doing something bad would be online, and people would see it.
Now I’d like to point out once again that this problem does not happen with this person anymore, and we’ve been past this type of issue for a long time now. The point though is that this not happen with other people in the future.
WHEN I WRITE IT
1. Not enough info. When I write a cross-over personally (and I can only recall three off the top of my head that I’ve actually done successfully, including the one stated in the previous paragraph), the person I’m trying to get the information from is usually going “You can do whatever with it”, so that’s what I do. And well it doesn’t go well. NOW, there HAVE been times where I’ve been given the info and utterly destroyed the Fan-fic (*coughConflictsArcanecough*) terribly, so I’m not saying I’ve been that great at it myself, but it makes it really hard for me to make characters act like they normally would accurately without information.
CO-OP-WRITING
1. HARD. Literally the only bad thing about co-op-writing. When I try to do a co-op it almost always ends badly, with the thing not even getting written. (And I wish I was lying, but it really isn’t because I’M not trying. I know that that sounds prideful, but I seriously can’t remember the last time I didn’t do my part.) Whether it be because of being offline for too long, forgetting to check messages, lack of interest, lack of information to give, lack of ideas (good or bad) to use, etc. almost every time it does get written.
So how can this be fixed?
Well MY suggestions… (and note these are just MINE. Others may have better ideas. I don’t know.)
1. GET LOTS OF INFO. Doesn’t matter how much it is, or how long it’ll take, you want to make a cross-over the point is making it a GOOD one. Have the people fill out the following form.
Name:
Age:
Appearance (AND image):
Location:
Other Location Information:
Allies:
Close Friends:
Enemies:
Abilities:
Skills (do not confuse with abilities):
Interests/Hobbies:
Likes/Dislikes:
Lines the character would say (if any):
Accent:
Nationality:
Personality:
And probably more after that. THEN if you want more detail, then once you come to a part you aren’t sure how they’d react to, send them a message asking how they would want their character to act.
2. Roleplay write. This is basically where you make the plot out of a roleplay you do. You start off with the main introduction, then introduce the characters, then roleplay a while, go to the next scene, debate on what to edit and what to keep, then turn it into an article. You can do this by doing the normal roleplay format…
A: I like Dancing *hit by train*
B: *stops Train* Doctor Octoganopus! BLAA! *shoots train*
OR the writer’s style roleplay…
“I like Dancing” A said before struck by a train.
B stopped the train by yelling “Doctor Octoganopus! BLAA!” and blasting it with a laser from his mouth.
Personally I find the Writer’s Style roleplay to be a better choice as it helps you make the little hints like “Little did he know” that you’d not be able to in a normal roleplay (Mangre, you are missed.). Also I personally find it to be more fun, and quicker, as you don’t have to change the story from roleplay to article (and on that note, to those who use the roleplay format to make articles, I have to say I REALLY don’t like that format. Not that I’m calling you bad writers because of it, but it’s much harder to read for me at least.).
3. Base it on a roleplay you already did. Take a roleplay you had with some person, and write the article based on that, with whatever tweaks you’d have made here and there. And of course GET PERMISSION. This is the easiest approach, as you neither have to go back and forth with the person, or ask them for various info (for the most part at least), with the only downside being turning the roleplay into an article. But even then that CAN help with the “Little did he know” effect.
4. And as always, when you’ve finished the article, check with the person to see if it’s okay with them. My suggestion would be to do this after each chapter is finished for short stories, and each scene for long stories. That way if they want something changed near the beginning you do not have to change the whole plot because of it (or at least the writing part).
An example I’ll list is what I’d consider the best cross-over series I’ve ever been a part of so far, and it is of course MOBIUS ACADEMY.
The method used in this series involves me and Gracethefox typing up the story’s plot-summary, then (usually) me writing it, and sending it to her for approval, before posting it. Now lately however we have been doing it so Grace does the writing too (which she’s great at if I might add). And when he run into scenes where the paths of writing intertwine, we take the roleplay approach, and write in Writer’s Style roleplaying. We mark the scenes we’ll be using, and mark the parts where they are in the story, then put them together, check it, and finally post it. Thankfully we have not had to make edits to the story because of oversights yet, and I doubt we will with how well it is going. If you plan on making a cross-over series I suggest this approach. It has yet to fail me or Grace (or as far as I know).
Now there is one exception in a way to this, which is of course the “In Another World” series. Why? The IAW is based on three things that change all character’s personalities and lifestyles
1. They’re humans in this, and therefore do not have certain attributes like large ears or tails that can affect their personality.
2. They do not have powers, which can affect their personality.
3. They do not live the same way, or even with the same people with some.
The point of IAW is to make scenarios completely chalk-full of WHAT-IF’s, so it cancels out and/or changes…
Accent:
Nationality:
Name:
Age:
Appearance (AND image):
Location:
Other Location Information:
Allies:
Close Friends:
Enemies:
Abilities:
And maybe some other attributes. If you are planning to do a cross-over series like this, then most of these will not affect you (MOST, not all). That does not mean you don’t ask for permission. And if you do try this type, you should probably add stuff to the profile chart like
What would you like them to act like?
How old?
What skills?
What nationality?
What friends?
Etc.
I guess this is more of a suggestion article than a standards-article, but I do mean “standards” when it’s in the title. If anyone wants to write a story that has my characters I want to be told WHAT they will be doing, HOW they will be acting, WHEN they will appear, and be sent updates on it to make sure it’s okay.
So in the end of this, really quick, while you should want it done right, don’t try to push it too far. The people that make the articles DO try, and I doubt they’re trying to upset you. This doesn’t mean you should shrug off any mess-ups, but try to be nice about it, and if/when you have to make fixes, ask to do it yourself so they don’t have to do more work for you.
Thank you for your time
EAT PIE AND PROSPER
"You're misson is to recover the chaos emeralds." "ok" Ruby runs off heading towards Eggman's base."who's that" ruby thinks. As a Blue hedgehog races by. "It don't matter" As ruby sneaks into one of the vents. Crawling until the she sees the glow of the red chaos emerald. "It's like taking candy form a baby" ruby jumps out of the vent and takes the chaos emerald. As she gets ready to leave a two tailed fox walks in. "huh, who are you" "I'm ruby, don't bother me" she jumps into the vent before tails can get her. "Get back here ruby" Ruby escapes Eggman's base and run torwds the spy HQ. "so you say a red hedgehog took the chaos emerald" says sonic "yes, she escaped before I could get her" says tails angerliy "let go after her,sonic" says cream "I'm back" "Good job, angent ruby"says Emma the HQ leader "I have a question, who's the yellow two tailed fox" ruby demands "tails the fox he travels with sonic the hedgehog" "tell me more"
Name:Crescent Age:15 Fur Color:Black Hair Color:Yellow Clothes: A pink jacket, dark green tank top, dark pink skirt, brown boots, brown boots Favorite Bands:Within Temptaion, Three Days Grace, Tiffany Giardina, Crush 40 Intrests:Spending time with her friends Friends/Allies:Sonic the Hedgehog, Amy Rose, Rouge the Bat, Miles "Tails" Prower. Favorite Food:Ramen Noodles.
Surname: Hunter
Animal: Wolf
Eye colour: Golden/Orange
Fur colour: He has bright green is mainly his colour of fur, there is shades of darker green as his hair and tail etc.
Clothes: He has a black jacket, brown or blue trousers.
Accessories: He has a brown belt and he sometimes wheres a ring on his wrist.
Extras: He has chest fur and silky fur all over.
Role: He is sorta normal, but he has one power and that is telepathy.
Fun fact: He is a bit flirty and pervy at times. XD
Name: Gizbin
Surname: Gazor
Eye colour: A beautiful, shining gold.
Fur colour: A lovely silver
Description on looks: Three quills, medium sized ears and a tuft of silver fluff as a fringe.
Clothes: Quite heavy chain mail armour on the top half of his body, brown trouses cover the bottom half.
Accessories: He carries a sword around which protects him. There is a chain around his waist like a belt. He has no shoes on. He has two piercings in his left ear.
Role: He is the lord of the land and has a massive number of powers, he has dragon, metal, earth, ice, lightning and power. He gave his fire power to his son.
Ice heard so many stuff about what's going on in someone elses life blah blah blah(I was one of those awhile ago).Now I'm deciding that leave any personal things to putting on the best oc you can to make it like yourself.Problems with putting in your life,a pervert might think you'd give him more information and no one needs that.Also we have other stuff to do so if you spam us with"I walked my doggy dog out la de dag!~<3"we will only get annoyed with you.Last we don't like to scroll down according to statics so why would we want to scroll through crap.The only reason Im ok with it is if your explaining a absence .So in all we are NOT TWITTER,we aren't even FITTER,so stop treating this club like one.
Srry it's short hope you like it
Srry it's short hope you like it