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"Leave the Sewing to the Women"

What's your opinion in this line?

My opinion: It carry a lot of unfortunate implications and I would prefer for it to stay out of the movie. However, I also think this was only an excuse given by the female mouse so they could get Jaq and Gus (who, admittedly, attract a lot of trouble) out of the way.

It seems to me that way because later on we are shown that there are also male mice sewing the dress, so it would be a strange error of continuity.
"Leave the Sewing to the Women"
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Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
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MacytheStrange said:
It's sexist, it annoys me a lot and whenever I'm watching that movie and get to that line, I have to resist the urge to turn the movie off. Like, if it weren't for that line the movie might be higher on my list, seriously. Also, the line kinda makes me dislike that mouse. I liked her besides that line.

And I don't think she was trying to get them to leave, in movies when people (or mice) are tricking others we usually have some indication. But this has like no indication that it was anything other than a dumb sexist remark in a time when sexism was common and accepted.

And as for the remark itself, it's demeaning to BOTH genders. Men can't sew, women are supposed to do the sewing. I'm sure there are a bunch of men in the world who can sew better than I can, and I sure as heck don't want to 'leave the sewing to the women' in any way, shape or form.
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Fun fact: If you look at this mouse and the one who was singing before (Perla) they don't have the same design, just the same colors. Coloring mistake, I guess. You don't have to dislike her.
Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
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Yehhhhh I agree
prussiaducky posted over a year ago
disneyislifeok said:
I always hated this line....I wish it wasn't in the movie. I enjoy sewing, and I know other guys who do as well....plus it's subtly reinforcing certain gender roles. And DONT get me started on gender roles
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Violet_Shade said:
It's pretty sexist, but it's also sexist to BOTH genders :(
This movie was made in the 50's, where women's rights weren't too strong, so it might not be too hard to find sexist material(especially towards women).
Thank goodness we shaped up all these years.
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rhythmicmagic said:
I think the entire thing is really being kind of overblown here. The film was made in the 1950s, and the facts are simply that women were basically constrained to these roles. You'll find lines/lyrics/situations like this in almost all media from this time period from almost all companies. It's six words that are over in an instant and barely even noticeable in the flow of the song. And even then, she was telling Jaques and Gus, two particular male mice, to let her and her (female) friends do it on their own, so if you remove the "it was made in a sexist time period" element, I don't think you even have to view it as a statement of gender roles.
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shanyuisboss said:
I personally think it's fine. I mean, let's be honest, how many men do you know that are good at sewing or that like it? Really, I bet you can't even name one. So basically, it's just usually a more natural role for the women to be the ones that like cleaning (or not like but are better at it) or cooking or whatever. Men usually are naturally more the type for the rough stuff. I'm not saying men are these powerhouses and that women are these ants that can't do anything though. Women just seem to naturally be the type for sewing.
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I mean, women can be very strong. I am not saying men are always stronger then women or anything like that. But like I said, what kind of man likes to sew?
shanyuisboss posted over a year ago
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^ Ah, okay. I'd state some other opinions I have, but then I'd start a whole other debate, and I'm done with this for now. :)
MacytheStrange posted over a year ago
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Okay. To be truthful, I always found the King a tad sexist, even if he's hilarious.
Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
rosemina said:
Well, I don't think there is any subliminal message in this scene. It is a fact that women did all the sewing back at those times, so Jaq and Gus would cause problems due to their lack of knowledge on sewing. The female mice's work would be better and faster thanks to their experience. I think that was the point. But then it does show male mice helping, so perhaps the female mouse just wanted to avoid the troublemakers, as you said.
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Glitches, glitches, glitches
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MacytheStrange said:
just so i can see the answers, fanpop is glitching. sorry :)
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For me too. I always have to refresh the page to see the answers. I wonder if it's just this question or a technical problem.
Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
prussiaducky said:
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prussiaducky said:
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Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
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Fanpop is glitching for her. Neither of us could see the answers until we commented twice for some reason. :)
MacytheStrange posted over a year ago
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^Same for me.
Silverrose1991 posted over a year ago
princecatcher93 said:
I'm fine with that line. I mean I think it was a way to get rid of Gus and Jaq...I mean those two don't look like they could help that much. They almost took out a mouse's tail!

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viktoriya773 said:
A movie from 1950's hmmm...That explains A LOT. if you don't know American History, let me inform you... In the '50s women where only praised as housewives and mothers. They cooked, cleaned and made the children. Few of them had jobs outside the house, but they had "feminine" jobs like secretary. So it's really nothing new coming from the '50s. That's the decade, and that's how women were treated back than. I'm surprised her body was not designed like Yoko's from Gurren Lagann. Meaning tiny waist and big boobs and butt, the "ideal" '50s woman. But it really don't bother me, anymore. It's not a reason to sound sexist but that's how it is.
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Actually the "ideal" body for women in the '50s was a larger waist, and a fuller body.
prussiaducky posted over a year ago
TheFabulousFAN said:
Is it sexist? Yes! But you can find sexism in all the disney movies if you look hard enough but it's there because of the time period it's set in. I hate the line and it's awkward to explain especially to children. It's a terrible line that I wish wasn't there but it was the 40's and 50's nothing you can do it's not worth fighting over just worth not liking those 2 seconds of the film. I fine with it, just sometimes it makes me cringe
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MadameLee said:
I think it's a bit stupid excatly. Not only for the reason you mentioned but also during any wars that had happened in history after the invention of sewing-for instance civil war, WWI &WWI-men also needed to know how to sew so they could fix their uniforms.

Also in olden days like those if there was a master of a house (we know there isn't) would have needed a valet, and he too would have to have known how to sew.
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cruella said:
The line could be viewed many different ways. It could be seen as the 1950's being a sexist time for women, and them not being strong enough to gather the trim. It could be viewed, as the female mice just wanting to do the sewing by themselves, without the 'guys'. Or it could be seen as reverse sexism, that men can't sew as well women.
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prinelsa said:
I don't think too much of it.It's just a lyric.
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no_thanks said:
I never watched Cinderella full way because I thought it was a boring a** movie. I don't really care if they said this or not, they're rats, filthy vermin, I don't think kids growing up are going to take the advice of rats, especially so if she only says it for a millisecond. That's just me, clearly Disney has grown past this and that's cool.
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