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Atheism Do you have negative feelings toward Christianity?
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It disturbs me that somebody could go through a lot of pain and grief because of a perfectly innocent feeling of love towards the same sex and being unable to act on those feelings, or if they felt they were born in the wrong body and would be unable to do anything about it. It disturbs me that those people would be stifling themselves for their whole life, and all for nothing. It disturbs me that they depend on God, a force which doesn't even exist. It bothers me that the Pope has the power to start wars against anybody he wants with his illogical arguments against atheism (apparently it has started many wars over the years. Not that Christianity ever has.)If he said, all atheists are dangerous and should be wiped out, millions of poeple would automatically agree because they have been told a lie from birth which ties them down and does not allow them to make their own decisions.
Sure, I like the people themselves, as long as we avoid the subject of religion.
One of my friends all but said I would go to hell. She thinks that I'm a sinner for being bisexual. She is the only one that speaks up in class because she doesn't believe in evolution and she has 'problems' with making a Geography test that includes questions about evolution.
She is a terribly sweet girl, but I would get along with her so much better if she wouldn't say things like these.
The christian faith also took my best friend in the world away from me. I have been debating against religion (all kinds of religion, don't get me wrong) for years, and suddenly the last year she went to church, out of the blue, because it was a special Filipino church and she wanted to get to know her roots.
In a few months she went from a sweet, loyal friend to a self-righteous, nasty bitch that ignored me whenever I spoke to her. Now she doesn't want to talk to me anymore because I recently said in class that I think that a lot of believers are hypocrits (I can't remember me saying that, but it sounds like something I would say in the heat of an argument).
I know that that's probably in the personality of these people, but I already had issues with christianity, and people like these are just the cherry on top.
i went to elementary school in a predominantly white christian town, and i spent the entire seven years being harrassed and told repeatedly i was going to hell for not being christian. it ruined my childhood. the idea of missionaries also bothers me because it endorses the idea of christianity being the one true religion. everyone should be able to believe as they like, unmolested, and the belief that you have the one true religion only fuels wars, like the one america is in now.
i also have a problem with the Holier-than-thou attitude. it's great you've got a religion that works for you, but there are hundreds of mainstream religions, and thousands of denominations, an frankly, most of them leave you alone, you should return the courtesy.
christianity has also wormed its way into politics here in america, and that utterly disgusts me. those pulling religion into politics tend to be christian fundamentalists who don't care that america's government is not a theocracy, and that there is a blatent rule: don't mix church and state. but with this, they seem to feel that they are the exception, and so we see many pulling the religion card. if you don't want to have an abortion, recognize gay marriage, or conduct or endorse stem cell research, that's fine, but pushing your feelings on all of us is what is turning my country into a theocracy.
In general I would say no.
What I think a lot of people and atheists see in the media and around them are the loud, awful, idiotic Christians who have nothing better to do with their time then spout nonsense about God and Jesus and their beliefs. Just as only a small fraction of Muslims are radical, it's the same with Christians. Only the loud ones are noticed, and since it's mostly American's we're talking about, they're even louder.
Some of my best friends are very religious people and they couldn't be kinder, more thoughtful, giving people if they tried. I love them, and other Christians to death. They have never said anything about my religious views, and I won't say anything about theirs.
But if there's someone that's totally religious and has problems with gay people or something like that, then I don't think it'd be easy for be to be with them...
Just thought I'd let y'all know that we're not all like that. Many of us see that problem and try to make it better. We don't mean to be selfish but the topic of religion can make the most ridiculous wars.
Abortion is wrong though. It's wrong because only because the organism hasn't been born yet, it doesn't mean it's not a living creature. All creatures deserve to live. Therefore, abortion is murderer.
Just know that we don't choose to believe just because "some guy made it up and we believed him." No. That's the truth about global warming but not Christianity. Al Gore made it up to make people do something to save our planet. It worked but it's so not cool. Global warming is a theory.
Oh, and just so no arguments may start [just in case], I am not saying this angrily or disrespectfully at all, but rather calmly.
I'm not saying it isn't something alive... But do you consider murderer to cut off a flower? Because before 3 months the foetus is not more alive than that flower. If you consider that killing a flower is not okay, then it's perfectly fine and I understand you... You think every kind of killing is wrong, okay. But if you don't care about the flower, then I can't get why you would care about ONLY A LIVING CELL, and with time, a beating heart. But before 3 months, that's ALL IT COULD BE. =) And I'm not saying this desrespectfully either :P
I have a Christian friend that said that Gay marriages were okay, and they all said that she was warped.
And concerning abortion, if the parent is going to die and the only way to save her is to abort, she definitely has the right to save her own life.
Abortion NOT murder to a point in the pregnancy. Because to be murdered you have to have been alive BEFORE you are killed NOT have the potential to be alive. And your only actually alive when you have brain function - so until the foetus has brain function they are NOT alive and therefor cannot be "murdered".
As for abortion: I won't even go there except to say that in the 21st century where there is so much means of contraception available there really should be no need for so many pregnancies being terminated!
Rape is an act of violence and if a pregnancy occurs as a result of this act then I do not believe that any woman should be expected to have the baby. It would be cruelly unfair for both mother and child as it would only serve as a reminder of the trauma and violence that caused the child's conception.
However, as a mother myself, I will add that I am absolutely disgusted at your casual comparison of a baby (although unborn!) to a mere flower. I have ultra-sound pictures of my daughter (who's now 19) when I was only 6 weeks pregnant and I can tell you there's a hell of a friggin difference between the two.
You're only very young though, maybe one day when you're a mum yourself you might not see some things with such disregard and disrespect.
ricko, my comment didn't have every detail. I believe abortion is alright in some cases. In the case you noted, no. Many women have been raped and had the child and raised it and made it become a blessing. They were devastated and may have wanted to take that road, but as humans we learn to be strong and leave the past behind. It's alright when she will have health issues or death if she has birth.
Something I have come to be able to realize more often: Religion is awful. But faith is a whole other story. I know I should really use that word here, but it's the only word I can think of.
As for the abortion topic, I think it's sometimes easy for people to say they would or wouldn't. But at the end of the day you never know how you're going to react until your in that situation. I certainly dont. Plus like other people have said there are many different scenarios like rape.
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like most people here, i am more against the principles of christianity and for it denouncing abortion, same sex marriages and the like. if people are religious then so be it, but they also shouldn't condemn and knock atheists for opting against religion.
I'm quite young (nearly twenty) but because of circumstances (I take heavy medication that would have to be very controlled in case of pregnancy) I would have an abortion if I became pregnant.
It would be the choice between me and my child in that case.
But because of this I am also very carefull: I take birth control even though I am not the one-night-stand-type and I do not have a relationship, simply because I don't know what will happen, and I want to be as prepared as possible for whatever happens.
My point? Sometimes this has nothing to do with age, but more with your personality, experiences and circumstances
Don't know where I found that quote but it's kind of how I feel.. I don't have anything against Christianity in it self but the people who are Christians and do stupid things and then justify it because of their religion. Just because the bible says so doesn't mean it's what is right.
And I feel the same way about other religions too, not just Christianity.
Also painful things like religion geniside wouldn't happen with there beening religion.
But it is fun to have something too debate about with people who do believe in God.
BUT i can't stand people who say I am going too burn in hell for my sexual preference and my beliefs , they kind of reck my respect for all religions. >:L Srry
But Religion and Christianity expecially, I can truly say i Hate.
It's not so much the Christian religion that I object to, but religion in general. I've had terrible experiences with Christians though, completely caused by my beliefs, or lack thereof.
I think religion is hideously ugly, but that's just me :)
jennabug, might I ask why you're on the Atheism spot simply to attack what we beleif (or once again, what we don't)?
But it's not just Christianity. Organized religion in general inspires negative feelings in me. I think religion is responsible for a lot of wars and atrocities throughout history. A lot of times it perpetuates hatred of minorities and is used as an excuse to facilitate greedy agendas.
Let me put it this way. Religion isn't necessarily bad. But what people use it for can be. And since I see a lot of this misuse of religion, I can't help but feel negative towards most religions. But I'm always willing to give individuals the benefit of the doubt and I don't judge people on their denomination but rather their personal behaviour.
Wanna trot down to the "Ask a Christian" forum and share your beliefs with thetacoman? His Christianity seems to differ from yours :P
oh wait that's catholic
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